Touring with the likes of Bon Jovi, Whitesnake and the
Scorpions behind albums crafted by Chris Tsangarides, the Grammy-nominated producer
best known for his work with Black Sabbath and Thin Lizzy, Toronto’s premier
purveyors of thrash metal were on the rise, or so they thought. But while Bon
Jovi, Def Leppard and the like parlayed boyish good looks and bubblegum hooks
into arena-sized success on MTV, Anvil found themselves left out in the
Canadian cold. Literally.
Since
then, the band’s co-founders – Steve “Lips” Kudlow and Robb Reiner – have
become well-acquainted with humility, working dead-end jobs and playing to
near-empty houses while keeping their improbable dreams of stardom alive. While
the bands influenced by their bludgeoning, lightning-quick riffs and pioneering
sound – namely, Guns N’ Roses and Metallica – became veritable institutions,
Anvil kept waiting for its big break.
At last, it’s arrived, in the form of Anvil! The Story of Anvil, a painfully funny (and sometimes just
painful) documentary about the band’s history directed by onetime roadie turned
Hollywood screenwriter Sacha Gervasi. A crowd favorite at last year’s Sundance,
Anvil! may not land them at the top
of the charts, but it’s given them a new lease on fame, touring from city to
city and playing to movie houses packed with rabid fans old and new.
Are they getting sick of watching their tension-fraught
story unfold on screen, and the accompanying media attention? Not in this
lifetime.
On the
two-year promotional tour that helped Anvil! earn more per-screen in limited release than April’s Hannah Montana
movie:
Robb
Reiner, Drummer: “This is one of the best things, if
not the best thing, that’s ever happened to us. We’re enjoying the discovery
and rediscovery combo-pack process of this. People are getting to know our
music, getting to know the band, and we’re getting recognized everywhere. We’ve
been working hard for 30 years to get to this point, and there's value in that.
It goes back to 2005, in Italy, when this buddy of ours from another band came
up to me and said, ‘It’s all about history, man, and you’ve got it. It’s all
gonna change for you!’ He starts saying this shit to me, and it had no
relevance to me at that point, you know? I thought, ‘What the fuck is this guy
talking about?’ Well, it turns out he knew what he was talking about.”
On how
life has changed since the movie’s release:
Steve Kudlow, Lead Singer and Guitarist:
“People are perceiving us as rock stars, for one thing.”
RR: “They’re
also perceiving us as movie stars, even though we’re not movie stars, we just
happen to be in a movie. We’re total rockers.”
SK: “But we’re
rockers in a movie. There is a difference.”
RR: “We’re
playing the Download Festival in June, and there are petitions for us to play
Glastonbury, but that’s not going to happen.”
Glenn
Five, Bassist: “If you believe the rumors, we’re going to be playing
several tours simultaneously this year.”
SK: “Yeah,
supposedly we’re playing
the Whitesnake-Judas Priest tour this summer. What’s that all about?”
On failing
to land opening slots in the past with friends like Metallica and the
Scorpions:
RR: “Politics.
We’re not a big band, we’re not going to draw people. And we don’t have the
kind of money it takes to buy onto those tours. We’re friends with those bands,
but they’re not going to give us a free ride. That’s the reality of the
business.”
SK: “The record companies we’ve been
involved with don’t have millions of dollars to promote us like that. It’s
political. Do we know their managers? No. Do we have a relationship with their
record labels? Probably not.”
RR: “But that’s
going to change.
That’s what’s to come.”
On their
decision to sell their latest album, 2007’s This Is Thirteen, directly through their website:
RR: “Most are
companies are done, aren’t they?”
SK: “What would
we hire a record
company to do? We’ve got all the promotional tools you could shake a stick at
without them.”
On the
current state of the band, whose frustrations and occasional rows are preserved
in time by Gervasi’s camera:
RR: “We get
along great in general. The fact that the movie captures a few blowouts doesn’t
mean we don’t get along. We could play into that notion that we’re at war with
each other, but the fact is that we’re buddies, all three of us. At times you
have frustrations. Shit happens.”
SK: “I like
to tell people we’ve
really hated each other since we were 13, but we stuck together because we
thought we’d make it. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense. Why would we stick
together for 30 years if we didn’t get along?”
On family
members who have discouraged their quest for rock-n-roll stardom:
SK: “That’s
Robb’s sister. She’s got a lot of anger, and there is a lot of stuff happening
in her life that’s made her that much more on the outs. She didn’t really want
to see us succeed, I guess. Originally, she was Dave Allison’s girlfriend –
Dave’s our old guitarist – and he left the band. Once he left, I don’t think
she wanted to see us get anywhere.”
On
retaining the integrity of their sound over the course of three decades:
SK: “After our initial success in
the early ’80s, we got really heavy instead of going the other way. We got
harder, faster and more aggressive with our sound, and we really upset our
original fans. They were still left in the ’80s, and we modernized. Instead of
growing old with them, we got younger and started appealing to kids more
because we picked up the speed and made our music more dissonant and evil. We
started to sound like Slayer.”
RR: “It’s
too heavy for wimps. We
put that on our t-shirts.”
SK: “Instead
of going commercial, as most bands do, we went the other way. Take Def Leppard,
for example. They started off pretty damn heavy, but by the time they hit Pyromania,
they were chicks with dicks.
With us, our first album is probably our lightest, and we got progressively
heavier from there. And that was intentional. We’re obscure. We’re underground,
and we play to the underground. We’re not playing to 14-year-old girls who have
crushes on us. We’re playing to guys, from 18 to 40 – guys! It’s metal. It’s
music for men. And we write for our fans, because we’re fans ourselves.”
On the
power-ballad-free future of Anvil:
RR: “We got
here on our own terms. From this point on, we’re being accepted for exactly
what we are, so there’s no need to be anything different tomorrow.”
SK: “We have
our own identity, and when we tried to add things to the sound that were not
really us, it became uncomfortable. We got too dark and distant, and the music
became almost dull because it was too heavy. We’re an in-your-face band that
wants to have a good time. Let’s fucking rock, you know? And so we got back to
that.”
RR: “We’re not
going to compromise the sound of the music, and we never would.”
SK: “No, never.
Absolutely not.”
RR: “We’re
going to keep supporting the movie, then we’re going to tour, then we’re going
to release our next album, Juggernaut of
Justice. We’re going to keep on rocking.”
SK: “We’re Anvil. That’s
what we do.”